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It amazes me that huge and manufacturers have SO many bugs in their mission-critical products.

Here is an illustration of devs at or :

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People pay for support, just paying to report bugs to them. 💸

@jascha

Marketing says their process for product delivery and support is #agile.

@SecurityBrew @jascha

It was just a joke. Poking a little fun at security and agile types.

@rysiek @jascha Seems like mansplaining to me but I had a hip replacement a week ago and the great USA medical situation has left me without painkillers before long Thanksgiving break so I’m a bit in pain & cranky

@jascha That's true. Cisco, fortigates, sonicwalls, mikrotiks.. Even for personal use I recommend cheap tp-links with #openwrt instead stock firmware for better #security .

@spoofy

I've built redundant setups for high-traffic SaaS services using OpenBSD, PF, and CARP. More powerful and a fraction of the cost of a Firepower or Fortigate. For personal use agree with you, and

@jascha I've got some experience with #PFSense and/or #Vyatta, but for high ends I prefer XDP
with hardware offload using smartnics - awesome performance and ability to have full control of every single frame is irreplaceable.

@jascha I think that's what you get when marketshare and sales become more important then good products. Bunch of big names are using "the least viable product" as their business model.

@jascha thankfully only a 0.0001% of all fortinet internet gateways leave their mgmt interfaces open to the public. /cough

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